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A Common Ground for Dialogue

24/9/2021

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Last week I was introduced to the work of Dr Peter Admirand who is the Director of the Centre for Interreligious Dialogue at Dublin City University. Dr Admirand was the keynote speaker at a colloquium on ‘Interreligious Dialogue in the Time of Pope Francis’, organised by the Scottish Bishops’ Committee for interreligious Dialogue.

While acknowledging the change and development in the Catholic church’s attitude to interreligious dialogue and the strong bond of friendship between the Pope and Rabbi Skorka, Dr Admirand widened our understanding of dialogue to include not just believers but also those who, as atheists, do not believe in God.

​Dr Admirand’s most recent book is an account of such a dialogue, his own with Dr Andrew Fiala, the Professor of Philosophy and the Director of the Ethics Centre at California State University, someone who has an interest in religion but is a declared atheist. The dialogue contained in their book Seeking Common Ground: An Atheist-Theist Dialogue is refreshing in that, like so many of these kinds of dialogues, it is not polemical with one side or the other trying to prove or disprove the existence of God.  Rather it focuses on the common ground of a set of virtues which allows for an honest conversation and a common search for understanding without suspicion and resentment. 

 Having learned something of the faith journey of each of the writers, the rest of the chapters focus on a virtue, suggested by one of the writers and then responded to by the other. There are seven virtues in all – harmony, courage, humility, curiosity, honesty, compassion and honour.  While the writers explore each virtue from their own perspective there is a learning for all of us in considering their role in interfaith relations.  Some, it would seem to me,  refer to the attitudes necessary for dialogue – a desire for harmony so that we are willing to set aside, at least for the time of dialogue, judgements and prejudices; a humility in listening to the truth as another sees it while recognising and acknowledging the terrible consequences of the failings of religions and ideologies; a compassion that recognises our shared humanity in its seeking for truth, even if we come up with different answers; an honour that  respects and values the integrity of the other and an honesty that allows us to see how others might interpret and understand our words and actions. Recently Pope Francis, a great advocate of dialogue, found himself challenged when he suggested that the Torah does not offer fulfilment but is in fact a journey that leads to an encounter with Christ, seemingly undoing advances in Catholic – Jewish relations from the days when Christianity was thought to supersede Judaism and render it irrelevant.  Now the Vatican is having to clarify that the Pope was speaking within the context of Christian scripture and stating “the abiding Christian conviction is that Jesus Christ is the new way of salvation. However, this does not mean that the Torah is diminished or no longer recognized as the ‘way of salvation for Jews.”

When such a thing happens to a Pope it is newsworthy, but such misunderstandings can happen in dialogue to all of us though if the dialogue is based on friendship, as is the case with the Pope’s relationship with the Jewish community, the upset can be talked about openly and be a moment of learning for everyone.  But it is fear of such incidents that can keep some people from engaging in dialogue. Courage is then needed to break out of our sense of self-sufficiency and comfort and enter the world of another. For those of us who have done it, the journey is transformative and enriching but taking the first step can be difficult. Perhaps it is at that point that curiosity is something to be valued as a motivation for setting out on what is truly an adventure.

At our colloquium Dr Admirand highlighted curiosity as the value he hesitated over and some attending the event agreed with him. He noted that the Catholic tradition, based as it is on the certainty of Revelation, was suspicious of curiosity believing that it could undermine religious belief and, in their book, Dr Fiala states his belief that progression in science, psychology and other disciplines has done just that, especially since the Enlightenment.  It certainly has taken many people beyond what Fiala calls naïve religion and that surely must be a good thing. There is of course a dangerous curiosity and today we are aware of the dangers of the internet, experimentation with drugs and other substances for example that can lead young people to play with fire – metaphorically if not literally. Pope Francis has warned against idle curiosity that is empty and superficial, but he has also said “the secret to joy: never suppress positive curiosity; get involved, because life is meant to be lived”.
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Within the context of interreligious dialogue curiosity is surely a value which, if strong enough,  gives us the courage to enter into the world of others and come back to our own changed and enlightened not just about the other but also about ourselves, our beliefs and the world we inhabit.

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Religions' Shame

7/9/2021

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In recent years the Catholic Church has been shamed in the eyes of the world. It has suffered the exposure of clerical abuse which has traumatised not just the victims but also those who put their trust in an institution which they believed had the words of eternal life. It has led to lawsuits, prison sentences and the decline of church membership. It has led to faithful Catholics struggling to come to terms with it all and trying to explain to themselves and others how such a thing could happen.  But abuse does happen and not only within the Catholic Church.

The UK’s Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, set up in 2005 because of serious concerns that some organisations had failed and were continuing to fail to protect children from sexual abuse, has, this week, published its “Child Protection in Religious Organisations and Settings Investigation Report”.  It’s not good news.  The report said that there was no doubt that the sexual abuse of children takes place in a broad range of religious settings. Evidence was taken from 38 religious institutions, including Jehovah’s Witnesses, Baptists, Methodists, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, Hinduism, Buddhism and nonconformist Christian denominations and evidence was found of “egregious failings” in all of them.  And this is likely to be the tip of the iceberg as the report recognised that many instances of abuse are never reported.  There’s little doubt, I think, that while abuse is endemic in society (even child on child abuse), it seems worse that it should happen in religious communities because of a hypocrisy that “purports to teach right from wrong yet fails to protect children”.

It so happens that I’ve recently read a book by Derek Scally called ‘The Best Catholics in the World’ in which he struggles with the abuse in Ireland where he was brought up. It was a challenging read for me as I could recognise some of the traits in the Irish Church reflected in my own childhood experience of religion, though I was brought up in Scotland.  I had a good experience of religion but now recognise the dangers in religion, highlighted by Scally and reflected in the Investigation into child sexual abuse. These need to be taken seriously.

It was recognised by both Scally and the report that in all faiths and religious communities religious leaders have significant power and influence. They act as advisers and confidantes in a context of trust and openness that can be abused. They give sermons, interpret the scriptures, they are thought to be knowledgeable about their faith, their word is taken as the truth, their advice as correct and trustworthy.  From an early age, believers are taught to show deference and respect, and obedience is seen as a virtue.  Scally talks about an excessive deference that can blind people to abuse happening in their community, not wanting to report it, and even blaming the victim when they do.  It’s this deference that can keep people conforming to a way of life and accepting truths unthinkingly. It begins in childhood but can lead to immature religious believers. 

Religious communities, especially those in authority within them, are guardians of the morality of their members, including sexual morality. Indeed, it would seem that some religions are a bit obsessed by sex and sexual propriety.  And the guardian of that propriety are mainly women and if they ‘fall’ so to speak they can bring shame on their families and neighbourhood.  This was certainly the case in Ireland which has had to face up to the abuse that took place in mother and baby homes as well as ‘the laundries’ –where young women were kept in prison- like conditions and worked long hours in laundries which were used by public bodies and organisations and supported by the government. Both these institutions were run by religious sisters and the regime was severe and punitive. While state institutions could send women who were thought to be promiscuous to these homes, families did so too, ashamed in many cases at the dishonour brought on them by their daughters’ behaviour. Ireland, Scally suggests, had internalised what it had been taught about right and wrong and had too much deference for authority.   Shame triumphed over love and girls and women were blamed for what had befallen them, even if it had been the result of rape or abuse.  
 
This is of course all about control, something religion is good at.  It reflects a fear, I think, of women who are seen as responsible for upholding the honour of the family and community and therefore must be controlled.  All religions do this and do it in different ways – through threats, confining women to the home, denying them authority, demanding a modesty of dress not demanded of men, public punishments, even honour killings. Women are always the ones to suffer and be blamed while men go scot-free.  And while there may be many people who disagree with this attitude it can be difficult to speak out against a prevailing custom or an internalised culture.  Often it is much easier to conform.

Books like that of Derek Scally’s and the report from the child sexual abuse inquiry are damaging, embarrassing and shaming for religions. It shows them in a very bad light, but it is good that this evil is brought to light and now spoken about.  It is a call for all members of the Church and other religions to look honestly at themselves and their attitudes, to become aware of their priorities and in the words of Fr Michael Paul Gallagher, quoted by Scally, to know that “the simple truth is that love is more important than explicit faith”.  Would that not bring about a revolution in faith?


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    I am  a Catholic nun, involved in interfaith relations for many decades.  For me this has been an exciting and sacred journey which I would like to share with others.

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